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    Default A vote for any party preferencing Greens is a vote for LOCKOUT

    A vote for any party preferencing Greens is a vote for LOCKOUT as fringe Green groups declare war on recreational fishers and boaters across Australia
    The Boating and Fishing Council of Australia (BFCA) today warned all recreational fishers and boaters around the country that it was increasingly looking like a vote for any candidate preferencing Greens at any federal or state election, was a vote for large scale marine LOCKOUTS as fringe environmental groups declare war on recreational anglers and boaters nation wide.
    National Spokesperson Dean Logan commented, “The current situation is dire and arguably the worst the recreational fishing and boating sector has faced in recent memory.
    “The last 3 years have seen the recreational fishing and boating sector under unprecedented attack from cashed up fringe international based environmental groups.
    “On top of this we now see the Victorian National Parks Association (VNPA) advocating the implementation of 20 additional no-take marine parks around the Victorian coastline on the back of a ‘desk top study’.
    “The study is not only a Green attack on rec-fishing, it’s embarrassingly flawed as the numbers don’t add up. “For instance if you take into account the current numbers of boat registrations, statistics on usage and marry these with the volumes of fish VNPA claim Victorian recreational fishers take, the boats simply wouldn’t return to shore as they would sink under the sheer weight of fish caught.”
    The Boating and Fishing Council of Australia is Australia’s most unified representative alliance for the marine, recreational fishing, trade & tackle, outboard and boating sectors. Established to address a continual disregard toward boating and its recreational fishing interests, the Council’s combined membership equals 100,000’s of working family votes and billions of revenue for the Australian economy
    Logan continued, “Our respective sectors are under increasing pressure and yet duly comply with the myriad of state and federal marine and environmental based laws that are considered worlds best practice.
    “Moreover, 32 environment groups drafted a media release on 21 June 2010 arguing that large no-take marine zones around Australia would prevent a Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster. What they omitted to elaborate on is how fishing and boating families drill for oil. Puzzling!
    “It is increasingly clear that recreational fishers and boaters in Australia must be very careful who they vote for at any federal or state election. Those that do preference deals with the Greens must be weeded out and exposed for their anti recreational fishing and boating stance,” concluded Mr Logan.
    END – Media can contact Dean Logan (National Spokesperson) on 0403 195 798
    Australia Boating and Fishing Council of Australia

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    i'll tell ya whats got me worried.

    i was listening to tripple j's current affair show, hack, and they were interviewing first time voters in sydney.
    the thing that worried me was that the majororty of these young people were saying they couldn't decide between a labour or a liberal government so they were gonna just vote for the greens instead.

    even though these people probably don't fish or shoot and probably never go 4wd'ing its still abit of a concern just how effortlessly the green are getting some of their votes. we like to blame the greens for alot of our problems but i think we need to recognise the attitudes of the general public, alot seem to think a vote for greens is harmless, i suppose if your not the outdoors type then voteing for the greens party might make you feel good about yourself but it sure can make it hard for us.

    cheers

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    it is a bit hard to decide what party to vote for but all the minor parties are gone i would vote for the fishing hunting party if they where still active as i believe this party would try and stop the greens doing what the do best and stuff the country look what happened at merrysville
    I love to fish all kind of water ( THE BEATLES SONG TITLE IS MY FAVORITE EIGHT DAYS A WEEK )

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    the greens have taken up all the votes that used to be for the democrats when they still existed. Unfortunately the greens are a much more extreme party with a very narrow band of policy which is in reality unsuitable for anyone in this country.They only want to put forward plans that are airy fairy in nature and have no possible benefit to either the economy or people who wish to both look after the environment and at the same time use it sustainably. All you need to do is look at the way the backroom deal with labor was done in complete secret with no details released, whilst managing to put forward the argument of open politics by their leader Bob Brown on the same day. Does this look like double standards to anyone else???? PLEASE reople make an informed decision at this election, don't just take pollies words for it(or mine for that matter) go out of your way to find out what the real implications of your choices are.

    Graham

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    Hi fella's,i read what your saying here,i understand,& i agree in relation to what the greens want.
    Now i'm going to talk about an example here to describe the greens way of thinking & illustrate just how F***** up they are going.
    Lets all just step back in time a little to those horrific bushfires we expirenced here in victoria.
    Now alot of people understand the issue the media jumped up & down about with Christine Nixon,regarding warnings.
    Now i belive ok maybe a few more lives could of been saved,if the following had of been practiced a long time ago.
    BACK BURNING,DEBRI CLEARING...four simple words

    Look at the aboriginal people in the northern territory,those people have been burning off for years,one would think they might just no something about something.
    Reason being if the teraine is not burnt up there every year,it simply grows out of control,and when a fire does start,well i think you get my drift.
    After all whats more important,a frill neck whatse Lizard,or a human life,according to the greens a frill whatever Lizard and the habitat they live in.
    Habittat,Habitat,tat tat tat,it's all about the habitat.

    Another thing back burning creates regeneration,regrowth inother words,so if i was an enforcer,i'd get all the people that have to serve community work,to a Back burn & debri clear,B,set up another project to help sustain our waterways,eg,cleaning up litter ect.

    So instead of planting trees,clean up the debri at the base,maybe thats what some of thease forestry workers should be focusing on,so if there is another bushfire & thats inevideble,there wont be so much fuel at the base,for thats what debri is.

    Like Bill has said,if the greens get in, well things wont get better for us fisho's,in my opinion the greens live in a mocked up global warming world that they will never stop,fantasy Habitat land of make belive,just my personal thoughts,cheer's Murph.....
    A bad day's fishing's better than a good day at work.

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    IFISH w TACKLEWORLD an UPDATE on Marine Parks: I spent the last 48 hours on the phone & in meetings with as many relevant parties as i can find to help with this situation. I am currently in talks with the Premiers office & the Liberal Party. I have also engaged many people from different parts of the fishing community to help with an action plan. (cont below)

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    IFISH w TACKLEWORLD My aim is to achieve a quick, peaceful solution. If this cannot be achieved, the gloves will come off and you will all be asked for a call to action. I will keep you posted and hope that it does not come to that. What the VNPA are proposing is un-Australian. Stay tuned Cheers PW

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    the green and there marine packs can f*#k off
    Global warming = higher sea levels = more fishing spots = bring it on

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    not going to make a new thread on this topic there is already enough..

    sign up for this partition hopefully this will be seen by the greenys.

    Stop the VNPA's demand for 20 more Marine Parks Petition

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    Look, what we are seeing is just the tip of a very large Iceberg.
    Many people still labour (no pun intended) under the illusion that this is a conservation based issue.
    It is not.
    It's all about a number of people (in this case the greens) that believe they have the right to tell everyone else in the world how to live their lives. Pure & simple as that. Control - A power struggle.

    For many years hunters have been fighting this fight.
    In the beginning they sought to get support from fishos, 4wd-ers, motor bike riders, & anyone else that made use of our great outdoors.
    The problem was (& still is to a very large extent) that there's always been an attitude of "I dont hunt so it's not my concern".
    Well, now it is your concern. It's the concern of each & every one of us.

    What we (hunters) have been saying all along has come to pass - it's only a matter of time until they start going after fishos. They (greens) see fishing as just another form of hunting that must be stopped.

    Let's be very clear on this.
    Unless Fishos, hunters, & everyone else that uses our environment, get together as a united group to fight this threat, then we WILL lose.
    Hold no illusions about it. They WILL take away your fishing.
    Call them all the idiots you want to, but there are a few facts that people should be very aware of;
    They are very committed to their (misguided) casue.
    They are VERY cashed up. I'm tallking big millions of $$$$$$$
    They are very well organised.
    And they are extremely good at political lobbying.

    We have some serious threats to deal with at the moment in this marine parks issue.
    However, even if we win this fight (& we must) it will not stop here.
    Everybody needs to be very clear on this.
    Now the fight has started it will not stop.
    They will not stop comming after us.
    There is only one way to counter this.
    Support each other, organise our defeces, & constatntly lobby politicans like hell.
    We are currently on the back foot over this. We must get onto the front foot & take control of the situation.

    The time for people to think "it's not my fight" is over. If you fish or hunt then it IS your fight.
    No-one can afford to sit back & do nothing any longer.
    You must get involved.
    Find out what is happening in your neck of the woods & go along.
    Sign partitions, join an organisation, write letters/emails to polliticians, lobby your representative bodies to urge unity with other similar groups.
    We have so many groups ready to represent us. There is so much willingness out there.
    But we badly lack unity & organisation. If we unite together no pollitician will ever dare to not listen.
    Witness the power the American National Rifle Association (NRA) can hold within their country.
    We have the potential to do the same.
    Not just take the fight up to those that oppose us but to totally control it.

    The timing of this seems all wrong for us but nothing could be more wrong.
    The time has never been better to get stuck into these ratbags.
    With both state & Federal elections looming Politicians are VERY willing to listen.
    We, as a united group, need to dstand up & shout at them so they will not ignore us.

    Bill.
    Last edited by Bartnmax; 22nd July 2010 at 08:55 AM.


 

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