This is more for Jim's info than anything else but I went out tonight to try some lures that Jim picked up and the result was 1 small reddie on the Imatetra lure first cast but nothing after that. The other 4 lures didn't attract anything but that doesn't mean they are useless. I changed over to my Halco and again first cast a small reddie. And again nothing after that. There were heaps of small reddies feeding on bait fish but not real interested in lures. I even flicked a soft plastic around with only one or two bumps but no hook ups. I will try them again in the next few days and report back Bender, cheers davo.