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Great day crap fishing

Discussion in 'Fishing General Chat' started by reelaxation, May 28, 2020.

  1. reelaxation

    reelaxation Well-Known Member

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    Went down the beach today try to get some 'ting and bream and maybe some taylor and salmon...
    T'was a beautiful day, the water was fairly warm but I didnt catch anything... At least I got to try out my new Gary Howard rods- have to say I like them but I am used to fishing heavier so the 3W 2-4kg rods felt very sloppy when casting which I was a bit disappointed with... I am thinking I need to try a few different lead sizes to see which gives me the greatest distance without sacrificing accuracy which is pretty hard to do with an Alvey.

    FYI I was running size 2 bean sinkers on 10lb flouro leader, the current pushing right to left didnt help much. I did try 2 X size 2 sinkers on the Breambo which gave me better casting distance wise, so maybe I need to get some size 3 leads for the future.

    On a side note some tool caught a nice 1m+ Dusky Whaler overnight and left it on the sand to die- not a good look and lots of people standing around it. I dont know why people dont release these awesome fish- they make great sport if you dont want them for a feed. What a shame it could have provided a great fight for someone else.

    Heading out Sunday have got some people booked in for a beach class- hopefully we can get onto some fish- but with a dead low not after we arrive and the erosion from last weeks monster southerly swells the beach is a lot shallower than I had expected, with no gutters or holes.

    Tight lines
    Anthony
     
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  2. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    I like a 2-4kg light surf rod if fishing a rip, a lot of fun, especially on tailor and salmon.

    If you can get hold of some small star sinkers around the same weight as your #2 beans (18 - 20 grams), it might help to anchor your rig when there is a current running. I bought some in South Australia years ago and maybe that's about the only place they are used as I haven't seen them elsewhere. You might be pushing the limit of the rod with a #3 bean that are generally around the 30g mark, but if it handled 2 x #2 beans then maybe you wont have a problem.

    What is the lure weight rating on the Breambo?

    Jeff
     
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  3. reelaxation

    reelaxation Well-Known Member

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    Not sure it doesnt say on the blank, but I will try to find out for sure. I have used 2-5kg rods from the beach like UglyStik's but these are just really different- prob because they have a slow action and taper, whereas the UglyStik and equivalent are fast action fast taper and can fling a size 4/5 sinker out no problems... I am just going to have to get used to it, but I can get snapper leads in size 2/3 from BCF or tear drop leads with wire maybe use more of a paternoster.

    I guess this is a good time to experiment with them.

    Thanks for the advice Jeff, appreciate the help :)
     
  4. Rod Bender

    Rod Bender Well-Known Member

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    How do these rods compare to the old 'Black Queen' in regards to action? Eventually I may get a similar rod as opposed to the poorer quality 'queens' that are produced now. Are the GH rods that you have low mounts as that is not what I am after.

    In regards to your unsuccesful fishing trip...I have no doubt it will inspire you to do better next time!
    Cheers
    Team Bender
    Likes a floppy rod!
     
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  5. reelaxation

    reelaxation Well-Known Member

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    Hey Bender, yes they are low mount but you can get them in mid mount for spin reels aswell... I am not sure how the actions would be compared to the old "Black Queen" rod but I would guess it would be pretty similar action- they have a slow taper and slow action- on the cast very wobbly down the shaft of the rod coz they are so light. I would prob (next time) go the 4W (3-5kg) or 5W (3-6kg) rod.

    Here is the link to the Breambo 4W (mid mount) - Max cast 20gm

    https://www.outbackadventures.net.a...breambo-4-wrap-mid-mount-2-piece-fishing-rod/

    Link to Estuary 3W (mid mount) -Max cast 15gm

    https://www.outbackadventures.net.au/product/gary-howard-estuary-9-mid-mount-2-piece-fishing-rod/

    Hope this helps mate
     
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  6. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    I have some of them. Also bought in SA but several years ago. They seem to be about a1/4 the size of my 3oz stars yet they dig into sand quite well for something so small. Should weigh one to check it out. You mention paternosters Anthony. Can I assume you normally use a running sinker for your bream and stuff?
    Noel
     
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  7. reelaxation

    reelaxation Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Noel I use a running lead rig with 2 swivels to stop line twist, I dont normally do paternoster rigs except when chasing taylor, salmon and jewies, but I did see a rig put up my one of the Sydney based guides Alex Belissimo he uses a paternoster rig for whiting and bream, so I might give it a crack next time.
     
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  8. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. I've never used anything but running sinkers for bream or whiting. I use nothing else, having a long standing belief in never putting anything on a line that doesn't HAVE to be there. Swivels at times being one of those that can be needed. I just let the lead slide down to the hook eye. I don't believe the sinker makes any difference to fish as they must often pick up a stone or something whilst bottom feeding. I've wondered about using a combination of a paternoster dropper as a top hook and a trailng hook on the bottom for bream and whiting, though I rarely use bait for anything other than the surf and that's on paternosters, or whiting up the river.
    Tied another version of worm flies a few days ago and in water, their action surpasses anything I could have expected.
    Noel
     
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  9. Rod Bender

    Rod Bender Well-Known Member

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    Sure does! When I purchased the Snyder Glas Contessas, I was hoping they were similar to Black Queens but they aren't. On saying that, they will come in handy. What I was after is a rod that would be used in freshwater using floats. The ability to cast heavy weights is not required.

    I will see how the Contessas go...I wont be buying any other rods in the near future.
    Cheers
    Jim
     
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    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Don't think I'll be buying any more....Full stop
     

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