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Lighten Up

Discussion in 'Tackle Talk' started by diesel, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to flick some light hardbodies with my mate's Nordic Stage Artist 1-3kg rod and I'm convinced that I've got to lighten up with my gear. I've been using heavier rods most of my fishing life, with the lightest being a 2-5kg Shimano TK3G and a 2-5kg Samaki Zing in recent years, but after using the Artist I think I need to go a bit lighter.

    I don't want to fork out the big bucks for a Nordic Stage, but looking for some feedback from others using light gear. Noel, from memory I recall that you use a 1-3kg Pflueger Trion and it has proved to be a rod that punches above it's weight, but I can't seem to find them anywhere.

    Anybody else using a 1-3kg stick that is reasonably priced (under $200)?

    Jeff
     
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  2. Chili

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    Bit late this reply, but I just joined. I actually love using light to medium gear. You can get some decent stuff under or around just 100 bucks just so long as you physically go into the shop to purchase them and check all the components are straight and done right. I have a lovely ultra light Fenwick Eagle that cost $70 but dont think you can get those now. Recently I got a Shakespeare Slingshot Engage 1 to 3 kilo with camo grips. Has a great action and ton of fun to use when a good fish is on. $60. Just check all the components, guides, reel seat and blank, if all in line and straight then its all good. Its a seriously good little rod. Another I have is a Berkley Exponent, also very good, that cost just $70. I like the Slingshots action just a tad better I reckon. Tried to upload a pic of mine but couldn't.
     
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  3. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Well-Known Member

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    I am a fan of the Pflueger Trion 1 to 3 kilo fishing rod cheapish and bloody good quality for the price point in different weights , my son and my self have 9 of these rods with stradic and sustain reels and have nailed a lot of fish from the humble bream to a 7lb snapper ......
     
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  4. Tackleberry

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    I am trying to find somewhere to weigh my rod (Yep I got it haha) but it is a 1pc and to flop it out at the IGA might raise a few eyebrows ......
     
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  5. Chili

    Chili Well-Known Member

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    :D Mines 2 piece, um, yeah, my fishing rod, and err, ;), very lightweight. The checkout chick at Aldi said she was gonna call the police when I said I wanted to weigh it. For crying out loud it's just a fishing rod!
     
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  6. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the feedback, TAC & Chili.

    I use my precision jewellers digital scales for weighing jig-heads with plastics, lures etc, mainly for curiosity more than anything else. I've never thought about weighing a fishing rod, it either feels right in the hand or it doesn't, but now that you blokes have mentioned it I might make it my mission for the day - make up some sort of cradle for the purpose of weighing rods. Why? Why not, does there need to be a reason for doing anything related to fishing?

    Team Diesel
    R&D specialist of useless apparatus for useless projects.
     
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  7. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    I spent a couple of hours with a bloke today who extended the hand of friendship that a lot of dedicated fishos seem to do regardless of whether they know you or not and I had the privilege of using a state of the art super ultralight spin outfit. It was a 7'6" 4 piece rod that he bought in Japan, the brand name was written in Japanese and when spoken sounded something like 2 coughs and a spit, so I wont try and reproduce it in writing.

    An extremely light rod, the top section as thin as a bamboo skewer and the lower section probably not more than 6mm in diameter, but an incredibly strong and capable stick for what it was made for. The reel was custom made by a master craftsman in Japan and it held approximately 120m of 1lb mono with the outfit able to flick lures as light as .5g.

    Total cost of the outfit (not including return airfare to the land of the rising sun) was in the vicinity of $3,000.

    Why does he own such a rig? He spends a lot of time in Japan and only uses it there fishing for tiny trout in one of the mountain lakes with immensely rich Nipponese businessmen.

    Would I want to own such a rig? Well, the top section would be handy for cooking prawn kebabs on the barbie and the reel was almost small enough to hang off my car keys to show others that I like fishing, but for Australian fishing, absolutely useless which is probably why super ultralight spin gear hasn't taken off here - our fish would destroy it.

    After seeing how fragile these light rods are, I am starting to think that I'll stick with what I've got, the lightest being 2-4kg.

    Jeff
     
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  8. Rod Bender

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    Come on, have a crack at the name!:)

    I cringe when I see the tip of some of my Samurai rods...very thin! But not as thin as you one you used by the sounds of it. I have a lot of confidence in them in handling fish. But any decent sideways knocks may cause problems!

    The price of gear...I think some other factors come into play as well. Although you don't need expensive gear to catch fish, reality is if you can afford it and you like it, why not. Maybe not $3000 though!:confused: When I say afford it, I am fortunate that I inherited my house. No mortgage, no kids, no woman (no hope of finding a woman) gives me a lot of flexibility in money spending. Whatever floats your boat I guess, if you are fortunate to be in a good financial position. I used to make do with whatever I could when I was younger and working for minimal money on our orchard. Was rewarded with a house eventually.
    cheers
    Team Bender
    Would love to fish with rich Nipponese women!:rolleyes:
     
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  9. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    咳止め唾 - English translation: cough...cough...spit.

    Team Ninja
     
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  10. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    I agree whole heartedly Jim. I've never been tight-arsed when it comes to fishing gear because I live by the philosophy that you're only here once, so make the best of it. I guess you have to draw the line on some purchases mainly due to practicalities as there is not much sense in buying an outfit that is restricted to a very limited specialised form of fishing unless you intend to use it.

    Maybe that $3,000 outfit would suit somebody here in Australia who only targets small brook trout, who knows?

    Jeff
     
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  11. Bluefin

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    I have 2 TK3g 2 to 5. Nice rods, but rarely used ! not sure why ! I have 2 Shakespeare Slingshot Engage 1 to 3 , 7' And they are my go to fun rods, 3 Kg is not to be laughed at, The next is my 2 to 6 kg Daiwa Gen Black !! This rod would be the one if I had to take just one rod ! My river jew rod. The newer version seems a touch nicer ! Still only $199 Howard !! It all comes down to how it feels when fishing with it.
     
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  12. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    I've got the same rod, Howard and for some strange reason I don't use it very often either. The 2 rods that I use most of the time in that weight bracket are a Shimano Starlo Classic 7'2" 2-4kg for flats fishing and a 6'6" 3-5kg Ugly Stik Gold that gets more use than any other rod I own.

    Yep, some rods feel right as soon as you pick them up and others never seem right no matter what. I bought a 6'8" Shimano Maikuro 6-8kg, thinking that it would be good river rod matched up to a 4000 Stradic, but I've never been happy with it, just doesn't have a nice balanced feel.

    Jeff
     
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  13. Dickson

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    My favourite setup is a Sicstik Pro 7 foot with a 1000 Shimano Fireblood reel and 3lb braid the whole thing is so Light I love it.
     
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  14. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    I've never set eyes on either the Sicstik rods or a Fireblood reel Dickson, but I've heard of them and from all accounts, they are pretty good gear. What do you target with them?
     
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  15. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    After much research and procrastination, I have come up with a short list of ultralight rods that would suit me.

    1. Crucis Aegis
    2. Lox Yoshi
    3. Nitro Ultrabream Finesse

    All are 6'6", the Aegis & Yoshi rated at 1-3kg and the Nitro at 1-2kg and the three of them suited to flicking lures as light as 1g.

    Has anybody had any experience with these rods, good or bad?

    Jeff
     
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  16. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    So, after all my research and 'umming & arring', I decided on a 6' 1-3kg Gladiator Psyborg and will pick it up when I'm in Rockhampton tomorrow. It ticked all the boxes and got good reviews. Can't wait to get my sweaty hands on it.

    Jeff
     
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    Great effort to come up with a rod that wasn't on your short list! I think you should revisit your short list and purchase one for a comparison! Besides, you don't want your 'short list' rods to develop an inferiority complex!
    cheers
    Team Bender
    Always needs to purchase something else...likes to promote the fact!
     
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  18. blair

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    used to have a 3kg custom built silstar tranverse x, actually I still have part of it used for winch hook extension handle. used Diawa GC80 spooled whith 6kg (yes I did once use a Diawa, don't tell anyone) on it was a great baitcast rod but got broken at the butt section somehow. Used it whith almost locked drag for stopping dead then reefing large bream away from oyster leases whith heavy duty trebels hanging off 50mm crawdad lures. Sometimes snapped 6kg line went up to 17lb line. The GC80 was beginning to come apart changed to ABU 1500 you could put a high strength kit in the GC80,S, were good reels to use.
    I have plfueger(I think that's how it is spelt) baitcast in the boat that goes well doesn't get used much has a little ABU 1500 hanging off it, I am too lazy and it is too hot for me to go out to the boat and get the specs of the rod.
    If I was going for a really light baitcast I would be looking at a zodias, anyone would think I like Zodius rods.
     
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  19. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    It didn't happen Jim. I specifically told the tackle shop bloke over the phone that the rod had to be a 2 piece and when I got there he handed me a 1 piece rod and I've got to admit, the Psyborg was a beautiful bit of gear, but....

    So, back to the drawing board, the search for the ultra light rod continues. The big problem trying to find one up here is that there is no demand for them, hardly anybody fishes with a rod rated less than 3-6kg in North Qld and when I went to another tackle shop yesterday and told the guy that the rod I'm looking for needs to be able to flick lures as light as 1g, he gave me one of those looks that loosely interpreted meant 'bugger off, nobody uses lures that light' - bloody cretin!!!

    I've got a nice little Shimano Cranx Nano 3-5 kg baitcaster that is just magic to use, but it stumbles a bit with lures under 5g.

    Jeff
     
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