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Ok So what was my theory?

Discussion in 'Chewing the fat' started by Master Baiter, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    yesterday I acted on a theory to find fish in Eildon and it worked land based, with a boat it would be a Killer. It is legal, because you only use hook and float to catch them once you find them. I have not tried fishing for them yet This theory worked on trout and yellow belly and I would imagine on Cod.
    Wally
     
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  2. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    Our son went to the Pondage on Tuesday not a touch, neither did any of the other fisho's.
     
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  3. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    I'm watching this with interest Wally, apart from using an electronic fish finder to scan the water column or maybe an underwater camera such as a GoPro, I cannot come up with an answer to your question.

    Jeff
     
  4. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Me either but I like the sound of it
     
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  5. Chili

    Chili Well-Known Member

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    Only a hook and float, no bait?
     
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  6. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    This was the theory. lake Eildon has had over a million Trout fed into it in the last couple of years and over 600 thousand Cod, with a lot of brood Trout to 4 and 5 lbs, and of course bred on only pellets. So I reckoned that if you threw pellets in the fish would show up . So I bought a mixture of floating and sinking pellets. In a river mouth within a hundred metres I had two groups of Brown Trout gobbling them up. Next step work out what to use to catch them. Cheers Wally
     
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  7. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Tie a slow sinking fly. Wrap a bit of copper wire on the hook shank. Use deer hair or something for the body that will trim to a shape that looks like a pellet.
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  8. Dickson

    Dickson Active Member

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    Powerbait has always worked well for me when fishing for hatchery raised trout.
     
  9. Chili

    Chili Well-Known Member

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    Good one mate. This is true and I'm serious. Just a few weeks ago an older guy I know was telling me about his fishing exploits. He doesnt go now as he is disabled. He said similar, throw in trout pellets. But as an add on to what is mentioned here he said this "dont sneak about unseen, the trout are accustomed to relating the presence of a person throwing them in. So dont hide, show yourself on the shoreline throwing them in! They grew up expecting that. " Trout feeding time!" Gee, did you mate get this info from the same guy I know called Larry!?
    He told me about actually using that method in the Eildon Pondage.
     
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  10. Chili

    Chili Well-Known Member

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    Power bait is a top lake trout bait and my misses got her first Rainbow on it. Its Trout crack in my opinion for lake trout baits.
     
  11. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    I mostly fish family fishing lakes these days. I agree with you FVB,[Lyn and I love your Avatar] I have had good results as well using power bait for hatchery fish. I have also caught Reddies and carp on power bait. At the pondage a few years ago. There were a couple of Italian fishos throwing 1/4" screenings into the water, they were catching a few trout, I was told it was the noise of the screenings hitting the water that attracted the fish. The noise was similar to them getting fed.
     
  12. Chili

    Chili Well-Known Member

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    That makes sense. It was from what that guy told me about the feeding pellets that got me buying the fish food to mix in my up coming dough baits.
     
  13. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    No Chilli, when I am sitting down bait fishing my mind wanders from one thing to another. I went back yesterday with as a matter of fact some Power bait that was suggested at the fishing shop so I bought one and I took some garden and Scrubbies worms with me to try. It took me a while to find them again as they had moved or another lot up further. Now I know one thing they group together. With the power bait it seemed to be falling off I never had a bite but the hook came back empty. next I tried Scrubbies not a touch even throwing pellets in followed by Bait.
    Lastly tried Garden Worms and bang had several hits did not land one.
    I finished up throwing the Scrubbies in nothing happened, threw the remainder of the Garden Worms and they were polished off.
    To end this session I made some balls the size of a number 2 ball sinker and tossed in and they did not take any notice.
    By the way distance between 8 to 12 metres
    Wally
     
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  14. kev209

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    Small carp and reddies I have found suck the power bait from the hook. It's very hard to detect a bite,when I use power bait I always use a size 8 or 10 treble hook.
    I don't loose as much bait and I pick up some of those bait stealing pests
     
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  15. Chili

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    Yeah, the powerbait can come of easy if you dont squish it on good, but still comes off easier than most other baits regardless. I use bait keeper hooks and when I put it on squish it around the edges so you cant see any join area, all looks like one blob. And don't move it after you cast it to where you wanted it, resist that. Dragging it over the bottom will see it come off. It fishes ok under a float too, but depending on how much you put on and the hook size it can float. If you reel your line in using a sinker, look near where it was cast, if it came off itself you will see it floating, if a fish or turtle, they like it, took it it wont be floating. That way you know if you lost it to a stealth bite or it just came off. Under a float you may need a bit or two of split shot. I always have some power bait in my bag. Think of it as a one cast, leave and wait bait. If you reel in and by some chance its still there, you can almost guarantee itll come of next cast after it softened in the water. But for all those weaknesses, its still when a fish cruises past it, trout, irresistable and a top bait.
     
  16. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    Iwas using a size 16 treble for the power bait Kev
     
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    I can just see the eye on size 10 hooks these days. I doubt I could even see a size 16 hook.
     
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  18. Master Baiter

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    Pricking and hooking the thumb and fingers is another problem. Wally
     
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    Have you tried tying a pellet to a small hook wally, what pellets work I might get some.
     
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  20. Master Baiter

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    Not tried yet but I bought some Gorrila glue to fiddle with and it sticks a pellet on nicely, and guess what it floats the pellet and you can put a blob on any hook and they will float . I have not tried this yet but I reckon that with a blob of glue and a dab of S factor and a worm it could be a fish catching bait.
    I am fiddeling with Selleys Kneed it as well you can shape ,cut, polish paint and make your lures active by adding or cutting slits etc.
    Wally
     
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