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What is it that motivates you to go fishing.

Discussion in 'Fishing General Chat' started by Madfisher, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. Madfisher

    Madfisher Well-Known Member

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    Well most of you know I have evolved mainly into a carp on fly specialist , partly by necessity , but I realised while talking two two good mates I love the problem solving aspect of sight fishing. Firstly carp are far more sensitive to noise and vibrations then trout and far harder to sneak up on(unless they have never been fished to) and can also be ultra selective ,the fly has to smell right( a good rub in mud helps) and presentation has to be spot on.
    Now i love a little high country dam that everyone else hates because of the challanges it throws up.
    Lets look at my first capture this week out there. I had walked right down into a reserve overgrown with blackberries and timber.
    When getting to my turnaround point I spot a mud cloud near pin rushes, waiting , I finally spot one about 2 metres out from the bank, problem 1, there is a metre high hedge of blackberries between me and the fish, i could cast to it, and maybe hook it but no chance of landing it, then I remembered a gap , 30 feet back, I had on gum boots, and the water level had dropped 30cm. So I had a chance to wade along the bank 9inside the blackberries. Now problem 2, carp are more sensitive to vibrations in the water then trout in particular so wading is normally a no no . So wading as quietly as possible was imperative. Problem 3, if the fish sees me, before I see him its all over. Bit like being a sniper, luckily I spot him first , get the cast right and get the eat, nice fat 9lber that tests out the 6wt.
    Big feeling of satisfaction.
    Now I know others just like to sit and relax, tell us what motivates you to go wet a line.
    Tight lines Pete
     
  2. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    I'm probably not much different to you when it comes to the motivation, Pete, it's the challenge of targeting a particular species of fish with the right outfit at the right time and achieving success.

    There are rare times when I am quite content to throw out a bait, sit back, relax and let it all happen, but I do find that style of fishing a bit boring. I prefer to be on the move, flicking lures into spots that through experience I know are likely to produce a fish and the species that I am after, whether that is barra and jungle perch in the north or whiting and flathead down south.

    I am one of those fishos that needs positive results with my fishing. I didn't spend a big slice of my life and a lot of cash accumulating gear to consistently record donuts on the score card. Some fishos say that the fishing itself is the enjoyable part and catching a fish is a bonus - I'm not one of them.

    If there is no challenge with my fishing then I may as well give it away and take up basket weaving or some other 'extreme' past-time. :D

    Jeff
     
  3. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    I used to spend a lot of time doing nothing just sitting not dreaming but thinking. Such as why, what if, can it be done that sort of thought. Fishing is the most relaxing past time one could have. Being a bait fisho my motivation was to try different baits from the land and super market. Today I find it easier to buy worms and fall asleep waiting for a bite.Wally
     
  4. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    I think you two have just about nailed it for me too. It's all about challenges. I have long believed (rightly or wrongly) that to able to call myself a fisherman, I had to have at least the minimal amount of knowledge to catch whatever lived where I was at the time. Hence I guess the experiences of bait fishing that turned into lures. Redfin that were converted to trout fishing, beach fishing, estuaries chasing bream and many other types, light game fishing with many tunas, marlin to almost 300lb, barra on lures and fly, as well as bottom bumping off shore. I'm happy to have got this far with so many fish species being caught. I hate doughnuts and frankly, don't believe I should have them. I've had only one in nine years here but like everyone, of course have had a few in my days.
    My other belief is in taking the fishing to the fish, not waiting for them to come to me. To consider a fish as a bonus isn't possible. A fisherman's first job should be to remove what we call luck. It can't be relied on.
    Noel
    A happy old fisho who still believes he has minimal knowledge
     
  5. Madfisher

    Madfisher Well-Known Member

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    LOL, just had a chuckle to myself here, Yes Noel doughnuts are for fishers who have never developed there skills. Although flyfishing for a species like Golden perch(when they shut down thats it) can be extremely difficult, but by watching the barometer, wind etc no catch days can be minimised.
    tight lines guys
     
  6. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    I don’t put donuts down to lack of skills, if a fish is not hungry or in the mood for a feed it doesn’t matter what you are doing or trying you won’t catch a fish. Same tactics a couple of days later you will fill your creel.
    Wally
     
  7. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    I guess I should further qualify what I said about doughnuts. It's fair to say it's not everybody for whom catching fish is important. For many it's a layback way to enjoy our outdoors and I have no problem with that.
    It's said that 5% of fishers catch 95% of the fish. If I at least try to be up among them on occasions, well, I don't have to apologise for that. One thing I don't want to do is upset a bunch of guys for whom I have developed a great deal of respect. (provided I can still speak as I see it).
    For me, there is no other reason to go fishing than to catch fish. I guess I've spent much of my life (and dollars) in achieving what little knowledge I've gained.
    I certainly don't want to offend anyone who perhaps could easily take offence at the way I worded it.
    If you were one who may have been upset, please accept my apology. I have always said that I don't care how you fish. If you enjoy it (and it's legal) you should do as you choose.
    Noel
    We're not all silly fanatics like me.
     
  8. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    Yes & no, Wally.

    If only fishing with bait, I fully agree with you because you are presenting a food source and hopefully the fish is hungry enough to take it and as you say, if it is not hungry you most likely won't catch it.

    Fishing with lures as I and many others do, a fish will attack a lure not just because it represents a food source, but quite often out of curiosity and aggression. Jungle perch and sooty grunter that I target in North Queensland are both very aggressive defenders of their patch of water and I often see 10 or more sooties charge at a moving lure in an attempt to drive it away. I've witnessed the same with mangrove jacks, coral trout in the shallows and other territorial species - they are not hungry, just a case of bad attitude.

    Jeff
     
  9. kev209

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    I never took offence because everyone knows I go fishing to relax, forget my little health issues and enjoy myself. I don't care if I catch a fish or not, if I do it's a bonus. Years ago I had to catch a fish. I don't think any member of TBX would deliberately try to offend any of the members.

    download 1.jpg Kev the Donut king
     
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  10. Madfisher

    Madfisher Well-Known Member

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    Same for me, certainly did not mean to offend any one. I think Noel and I are the more driven types of fishos, who if they are not catching fish, want to know why in the hell they are not, and will try and do better next time. Diesel Cod are also keen defenders of there patch.
    cheers Pete
     
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  11. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    I wish I could still walk the riverbanks, climb down banks etc. but these days I can't. Today I met our Son at Bostock Reservoir, the water level has dropped a bit since the last time we were there. I was OK walking down to the waters edge where we fished for a few hours, YEP MORE DONUTS. I only got one small hit. Then came the slight incline walk back to the car which was only a short distance I had to stop a couple of times to get my breath back. When I got to the car I was stuffed. I love my fishing always have. The reason I get so many Donuts is I can only fish sh!t spots that have been flogged and have easy access for me and everyone else. I read the posts about the gear members buy and the places they fish. I sometimes get pi$$ed off with myself because I can't do these things anymore. In a few weeks we get our van can't wait.
     
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  12. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    I could not see anything offensive in this chat. I acknowledge the value of another person's opinion, if they are not the same as mine and are coming from a different angle so be it.
    I don't have to agree with them and neither do they have to agree with me.
    We have all been about long enough to know and respect each other and there is never any malice intended to anyone.
    Wally
     
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  13. Madfisher

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    Gee Kev, I feel for you mate, i do suffer a bit from extersional angina, but the medications keeps it under control pretty well for now. Suffering a bit today with all the damm smoke.
    Cheers Pete
     
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  14. Old fisho

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    I think it's fair to say there are few of us on here who are not retired and many have some sort of issue that makes life more difficult than it used to be. I know I am limited to only a small percentage of what I could once do. No lifting, no ladders, no trying to work overhead or when bending down. No doubt others have similar restrictions. Turning 80 in a couple of weeks doesn't help one bit either.
    When we launch my boat in town; as we step onto the jetty, Bill holds out his hand for the Jeep keys to bring the trailer down. He knows I can't walk up the ramp hill without at least two stops to get the breathing back in control. Hence I understand how it is for our mate Kev as it seems he shares exactly the same issues and he (when last seen) was carrying a bit more weight than I do.
    I walked the streets with Boss Saturday while she was doing Christmas shopping. Last night I was stuffed and went to sleep at the table when I should have been up making dessert. That meant she got up, left me asleep and put what I had suggested on the plates. I ate and went to bed before 8.o'clock, woke at 6.30 this morning feeling a bit closer to human.
    We've had lots of smoke here too Pete. Doubtless less than you. I have been told to avoid it where possible and think it contributed to wiping me out Saturday while a bit closer in Moruya.
    One of the few benefits in this latter life is being able to share words with you guys. No doubt some of you will doubt it but I think this forum helps me retain my sanity???????
    As for offending someone; nothing could be further from my mind.
    Noel
    A truly old fisho who doesn't want to quit.
     
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    diesel Well-Known Member

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    We are a diverse lot when it comes to fishing, we have all developed a particular style that we are happy with and it's a good thing really - it would be a boring world if we did everything the same.

    I've often thought that I'm the odd one out here on the forum, most of you are southerners who target your local species of fish and I target a completely different species in the north, but that's what makes the forum interesting, reading about what others are up to although I think I'm pretty well 'carped out' due to a lot of recent discussion. To all who target carp, please don't be offended by that comment, it's just not the type of fishing I do.

    It would be fair to say that we all started as bait fishos, some went on to other types of fishing, some didn't, but we all built up a skills base that evolved along with the experience. The dedicated bait fisho has a far better knowledge of the best baits to use for a particular species than somebody like me who rarely uses bait and they possess a knowledge that has taken a lifetime of fishing to acquire. It would also be fair to say that a bait fisho is just as driven to achieve success as the fly fisho or the lure fisho, they just do it in a different way using their own skills.

    Jeff
     
  16. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    I'll vote for that. I see it much the same way. You go your way; I'll go mine.
    Noel
     
  17. blair

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    None taken guys (offence) I used to fish hard and be a bit peeved if I didn't catch any decent fish, now usually take a more relaxed attitude to whether or not I catch a good one. Enjoy tuning my gear and getting it casting at its best and practice casting and observing whats going on in the water, sometimes unexpectedly catching a decent fish.
    The practice pays off when it counts. And of course getting out camping , hanging out whith other fishos, a few or a lot of drinks and stories around the campfire, exploring areas to fish etc.
    The hunt for the fish is what draws me the most I think.
    tight lines fellas
     
  18. reelaxation

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    These days its the wife telling me to go - usually on Sunday arvo/night so she can do her own thing LOL...

    Seriously though, with all the crap conditions in NSW ATM I am struggling to find reason to actually go fishing, crap water quality due to copious amounts of ash falling from the sky, the choking air and extreme temps with no rain have made any attempt to fish pretty pointless... We need the rain to flush the local estauries and wash the ash off the beaches. My saving grace is buying some new Serge Lures, which are to replace some which were pinched along with some other hooks, sinkers and leader back on Fathers Day... So soon as the air clears up a bit I mighty go have a chuck and drown some bait for some flatfish and bream.

    Tight lines ya'all

    Anthony
     
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  19. ratherbefishin

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    I got fishing for several reasons:
    • First and foremost is to encourage my lad to continue with a healthy and enjoyable pastime that I hope sticks with him for life.
    • Second is that for us, fishing is some of the best time we get as a family. The adventure of getting out on the water, the shared anticipation of us actually getting fish, the mini competition that goes on between us, the mild and good humored trash talking, the excitement that we all feel when any one of us gets a fish, the shared experience around the dinner table after a successful session......it's all priceless and is building some great memories for us all.
    • I also fish to relax. Almost every other aspect of my life involves a high degree of cranial exercise, so fishing for me is largely about rest interspersed with pockets of excitement. It's probably the reason it's taken me so long to start investing some effort to actually learn about what I should be doing; I've been desperate to avoid turning it into another cranial mission (which is something of a bad habit I have). That said, I'm enjoying the gradual....maybe that should be very gradual.....learning process and certainly look forward seeing an increase in our strike rate over time.
    I also get a perverse pleasure from tying knots and prepping the gear before we go out and the tidy up when we return (though I'm less of a fan of washing the boat....but it's a necessary evil).
     
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  20. Madfisher

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    RBF i can really relate to most of what you said. I fish a lot with my youngest son who is now 24. Although great mates he is quite competitive, mostly now he beats me, but sometimes old age and cunning help me to beatbhim lol
    Cheers Pete
     
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